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at last ive sorted the running rich issues ive had the carbs apart 4 times but even when cleaning them and being careful putting them back togeather it still ran rich i kept cleaning blowing with air measuring float heights and till finally got there i know its a pain to keep pulling them apart...

My 1985 v max is run nine rich on all 4 checked float heightz all are OK new main jets cleaned all other jets and carbs air filter is clean balanced carbs set air mixture screws 2and a half for from the and rear bike idles OK but just smells rich all plugs are sooty not sure where to look now...