thanks to both divadon and buster for the reply , i thank you for the information.my 06 max has a stock front end which is like mush from the factory, i have installed progresive springs and the ride was improved quite a bit but it still dipped a little more than i liked. so i made spacer tubes for the front end with a length that allowed for 1/2" drop with my weight on the bike . what a complete differance in ride quality. the max rides like a dream ,i can go into corners with complete confidence. its no sport bike but it has improved to the point of not needing any more improvments as far as i am concerned . im just worried about draging my stock cans on the ground and destroying the finish on them best to you all buckridge:eusa_dance: