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I'd say it's training for the beginning of the end of this country as we know it.
This is exactly how the Nazi party started.
For the life of me I can't figure out why any citizen would participate in this exercise!
God help us all!
This is exactly how the Nazi party started.
For the life of me I can't figure out why any citizen would participate in this exercise!
God help us all!
Redbone
Well-Known Member
Well, to me it sounds as if they are conditioning U.S. citizens to illegal home invasions by our goverment. This is not a good sign. The next thing you know they will be doing joint "exercises" with UN personnel. :bang head:
Here is another report.
Here is another report.
vmax190
Well-Known Member
this a outrage that they have to resort to this kind of invasion of the public to catch a arms dealer, BUT this in no way even close to how the nazi party came to be what is was, sorry to disagree, but i have researched this very deeply. dave
vmaxride06
Well-Known Member
Something wicked this way come :confused2:
Next we will have Camps for the unruly
Next we will have Camps for the unruly
Redbone
Well-Known Member
Dave, this is just a exercise, no real arms dealer involved.
It's funny that they chose the subject "arms dealers", you think that they'd use the "t" word to be more publicly accecptable. More conditioning I suspect. More fear mongering against people that have a backbone and chose to own guns.
The arms dealer support groups can't cry public outrage....they just have to shut and take it....use the "t" word tho and all sorts of 'religious' groups, even whole communities will start protesting, causing big problems.
Doesn't matter that the operation was 'scaled back,' the public has now been exposed to the "operational concept." I seriously doubt that there were any 'real' plans to actually perform this operation on the ground.
This particular phase was strictly a media exercise designed to obtain intel and I'm sure it was counted as a huge success! After all, they now have a solid fix on who some of the more vocal protesters are.....:hmmm:
There will prolly be a few more 'fact finders' like this before the "real" operations begin but it's pretty obvious which way it's going to go!
vmaxride06
Well-Known Member
Urban Warfare Drills Linked To Coming Economic Rage
All the so-called anti terror laws are solely aimed at repressing citizens dissent during the coming crisis.
Urban warfare training drills are taking place across the country as top analysts as well as officials predict a potential “summer of rage” across Europe and America as civil unrest from the economic fallout builds.
Earlier this month, 150 U.S. troops from the U.S. Special Operations Command whizzed around the streets of New Orleans in military helicopters and even dropped bombs in what officials described as a “training event”.
An Iowa National Guard training exercise in Arcadia, Iowa, scheduled for April was originally billed as an “invasion” before public opposition caused the drill to be scaled back. The exercise included Guard troops patrolling streets, searching houses and confiscating firearms.
No less than 2,200 U.S. Marines were also involved in urban operations training in Richmond, VIrginia, throughout January, drills that involved landing troops in populated areas, allowing military pilots to “familiarize themselves with the area.”
Military choppers hovered precariously low over parking lots as citizens were acclimated to seeing active duty military assets engaged in law enforcement style activities.
Watch a clip filmed by a startled Richmond resident who wasn’t even aware that Marines were conducting drills due to scant forewarning on behalf of authorities and the media.
Are such drills really for the purpose of preparing troops for foreign combat zones? Undoubtedly - but other factors indicate that the drills may very well also be aimed at preparing troops for dealing with mass civil unrest as the economic crisis worsens.
There’s no question that U.S. authorities have been closely observing riots that have toppled governments in Iceland and Latvia and also threatened to do so in several other European countries. The fact that they have contingency plans in place to deal with such scenarios should they unfold in America cannot be disputed.
Indeed, before a media expos? forced them into a denial, Northcom revealed that one of the duties of at least 20,000 active duty troops that are being placed inside the United States would be dealing with “civil unrest and crowd control”.
Meanwhile, millions of dollars that were set aside as part of the so-called bailout have in fact been handed over to local police departments and spent on military tools like armored vehicles, unmanned aerial surveillance drones and high-powered firearms for SWAT teams.
In addition, with many predicting that Mexico is on the verge of collapse as a result of the economic crisis and the out of control drug war, Texas officials have already established contingency plans to deal with an influx of immigrants, a program that would only address “law enforcement concerns” and not humanitarian needs.
HR 645, otherwise known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act, would mandate the expansion of FEMA detention camps which would likely to be used to detain illegal immigrants as well as rioting American citizens.
The prospect of widespread rioting at some stage this year is a scenario feared by many.
Police in the UK are preparing for a “summer of rage” and mass protests against the mishandling of the economic crisis by the government.
The U.S. Army War College in November released a white paper called Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development. The report warned that the military must be prepared for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,” which could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse,” “purposeful domestic resistance,” “pervasive public health emergencies” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.” The “widespread civil violence,” the document said, “would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.”
Numerous other public figures, including Senator Christopher Dodd, leading economist Nouriel Roubini, top trend researcher Gerald Celente, the head of the International Monetary Fund, the head of the World Trade Organization, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, former national security director Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair have all warned of coming civil unrest and global instability.
Considering the expectancy for riots, it would be naive to dismiss the notion that the increasing amount of urban warfare drills taking place across the U.S. are not at least partially to prepare troops to undertake law enforcement duties should civil unrest as a consequence of the economic fallout threaten a collapse in social order.
All the so-called anti terror laws are solely aimed at repressing citizens dissent during the coming crisis.
Urban warfare training drills are taking place across the country as top analysts as well as officials predict a potential “summer of rage” across Europe and America as civil unrest from the economic fallout builds.
Earlier this month, 150 U.S. troops from the U.S. Special Operations Command whizzed around the streets of New Orleans in military helicopters and even dropped bombs in what officials described as a “training event”.
An Iowa National Guard training exercise in Arcadia, Iowa, scheduled for April was originally billed as an “invasion” before public opposition caused the drill to be scaled back. The exercise included Guard troops patrolling streets, searching houses and confiscating firearms.
No less than 2,200 U.S. Marines were also involved in urban operations training in Richmond, VIrginia, throughout January, drills that involved landing troops in populated areas, allowing military pilots to “familiarize themselves with the area.”
Military choppers hovered precariously low over parking lots as citizens were acclimated to seeing active duty military assets engaged in law enforcement style activities.
Watch a clip filmed by a startled Richmond resident who wasn’t even aware that Marines were conducting drills due to scant forewarning on behalf of authorities and the media.
Are such drills really for the purpose of preparing troops for foreign combat zones? Undoubtedly - but other factors indicate that the drills may very well also be aimed at preparing troops for dealing with mass civil unrest as the economic crisis worsens.
There’s no question that U.S. authorities have been closely observing riots that have toppled governments in Iceland and Latvia and also threatened to do so in several other European countries. The fact that they have contingency plans in place to deal with such scenarios should they unfold in America cannot be disputed.
Indeed, before a media expos? forced them into a denial, Northcom revealed that one of the duties of at least 20,000 active duty troops that are being placed inside the United States would be dealing with “civil unrest and crowd control”.
Meanwhile, millions of dollars that were set aside as part of the so-called bailout have in fact been handed over to local police departments and spent on military tools like armored vehicles, unmanned aerial surveillance drones and high-powered firearms for SWAT teams.
In addition, with many predicting that Mexico is on the verge of collapse as a result of the economic crisis and the out of control drug war, Texas officials have already established contingency plans to deal with an influx of immigrants, a program that would only address “law enforcement concerns” and not humanitarian needs.
HR 645, otherwise known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act, would mandate the expansion of FEMA detention camps which would likely to be used to detain illegal immigrants as well as rioting American citizens.
The prospect of widespread rioting at some stage this year is a scenario feared by many.
Police in the UK are preparing for a “summer of rage” and mass protests against the mishandling of the economic crisis by the government.
The U.S. Army War College in November released a white paper called Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development. The report warned that the military must be prepared for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States,” which could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse,” “purposeful domestic resistance,” “pervasive public health emergencies” or “loss of functioning political and legal order.” The “widespread civil violence,” the document said, “would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security.”
Numerous other public figures, including Senator Christopher Dodd, leading economist Nouriel Roubini, top trend researcher Gerald Celente, the head of the International Monetary Fund, the head of the World Trade Organization, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, former national security director Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair have all warned of coming civil unrest and global instability.
Considering the expectancy for riots, it would be naive to dismiss the notion that the increasing amount of urban warfare drills taking place across the U.S. are not at least partially to prepare troops to undertake law enforcement duties should civil unrest as a consequence of the economic fallout threaten a collapse in social order.
Dirtystinknape
Well-Known Member
Where in the hell did you get this? :ummm:C'mon....."Earlier this month, 150 U.S. troops from the U.S. Special Operations Command whizzed around the streets of New Orleans in military helicopters and even dropped bombs in what officials described as a “training event”. Not that this place doesn't need to be carpet bombed but the military doesn't just go around "dropping bombs" in major US cities. You know, I will be the first to call a spade a spade (no pun intended) but I think you guy's are reading too much into all this. I would say that if anything, this is a somewhat economic way for guard and reserve units to get some decent training w/o sending them to places like JRTC (joint readiness training center at Ft Polk LA, which cost's tons of that the state will have to pay for btw), before deploying to the desert. I actually think this isn't a bad idea if done right(flame away if need be). I would imagine that they are going to go WAY out of there way not to intrude on anybody's personal life or whatever. Of course, this is just my opinion.
KJShover
Proud Vmax lover
Where I live, I'm 10 min from the Army base and 40 from the Airforce base. Its not too uncommon to see training over the city. especially before deployment.
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/feb/06/military-helicopters-train-above-fairbanks-today/
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/feb/06/military-helicopters-train-above-fairbanks-today/
vmaxride06
Well-Known Member
I pulled it off a Video Website, Now that I have done some research on this topic, I should be kicked in the nuts with a frozen boot as Danny would say. The original story was written from here http://www.infowars.com/urban-warfare-drills-linked-to-coming-economic-rage/
I do not support these views from this website, Tin Foil hats for everyone on that site.
Be well
Let's take a cruise to Roswell NM, see the real deal!!! :rofl_200: :rofl_200: :rofl_200:
ET phone home! :biglaugh:
Frosty72
Well-Known Member
Dirtystinknape has it right, sounds like they are training to do urban searches in the sandbox. They can't just go over there and wing it.
Certainly possible but, if it's already public that the whole thing is a training exercise, why use the 'gun dealer' angle then have to deal with the resulting public outcry?
Why not "We are going to do a training exercise in Iowa to help our guys perform urban searches in the sandbox."
The training angle just doesn't fit, why lie when the truth works better?
KJShover
Proud Vmax lover
It keeps the anti-war protesters down.
We have hoards of anti-government ppl like that up here too. They tend to live in Fox, Salcha, Ester...
An odd bunch. during the fire season the tankers were flying overhead and dropping fire retardant. They would call in 911, the newspaper, the television on "how the government was dropping mind altering agents on them"
Dirtystinknape
Well-Known Member
I don't want to paint the wrong picture with what I said either. If a unit, may it be Guard, Reserves or active is deploying down range, they will get ample amounts of training one way or the other. I don't want to give the idea that if they don't do this exercise then they will go unprepared. I think it's just more cost effective for this one specific kind of training. What they are doing is basically a cordon and search. The "arms dealer" just represents someone that's on a "black list" that is known to have been operating in a specific area through some G2 or local intelligence source. That would be my guess at least. BTW, good call on the protesters thing. I didn't think of that before.
