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woodsman30

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Need to vent why does the government need everyones phone records? Everyday freedom is going out the window and people shrug their shoulders and say oh well.WTF and now they want to tax us for every mile we drive again wtf!:bang head: I just dont get it do any of you?
 
Hate it! It's insane how much they know about everyone and that's just what they admit.
 
I get it....its about the redistribution of wealth...those with more have to pay for those with less.
Its thinking like that though...that MAKES people want to work less... because then the government will automatically support them and have its own voting base. IMHO

Ever watch babylon 5? There was a government organization called the psycorp. They would take people with psy talents away from their parents and basically raise them. There was a saying on the show...."The corp is mother, the corp is father". THATS what the government wants to be to everyone.
 
This is only the tip of the Ice Berg when it comes to what the Fed. Govt. has done to spy on and document us. Pretty soon we'll have numbers or bar code on our foreheads.:hammer bash: We need to wake up soon or it's all over...... Monitoring everyone's phone cnversations and all electronic communication of the entire world is their goal here..... A new complex is being built in the Western United States that will handle this and much more.:hitsfan:Coming Soon.....
 
What are you willing to give to protect yourself from the people that hate us? If having a wire tap on your line would save one life in your family would you allow it?
 
What are you willing to give to protect yourself from the people that hate us? If having a wire tap on your line would save one life in your family would you allow it?

That is a very good question...I guess a better one is...do you trust the people that have this information to use it wisely and do the right thing?
 
What are you willing to give to protect yourself from the people that hate us? If having a wire tap on your line would save one life in your family would you allow it?

The cost freedom is not cheap many have died for it my family has the same views as I do. So yes I would give my life for their freedom as they would for mine that's the real American way... we forgot that.
 
I will take the responsibility to protect myself and my family...this government can't be trusted or depended upon . Just leave me alone...:bang head:
 
I will take the responsibility to protect myself and my family...this government can't be trusted or depended upon . Just leave me alone...:bang head:

Reagan said one of the worst things anyone could ever hear was : " I'm from the government and I'm here to help . "

Substitute " control " for help , and you have our current administration .

Just in case you wondered where all the communists , marxists and socialists had gone .
 
Is Edward Snowden a hero or a traitor?
David

I dont think neither he did what he thought was right. trator would be selling secrets to other countries I dont see that here. Hero is one to be admired dont think he is that either. In light of all thats been going on in our country perhaps his exploits are the least of our worries. The Constitution says " We The People" not we the goverment ...just saying
 
Is Edward Snowden a hero or a traitor?
David

I don't know....I know that the practice of the American government needed to be brought to light. I do find it interesting though that the American government was collecting this data "in case someone becomes a terrorist in the future", but it didn't seem to help with the Boston bombing. Even when the Russians said "hey...yall need to keep an eye on these guys" the Boston bombers still fell thru the cracks.
 
"Those that would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither liberty or safety."

- Benjamin Franklin

It was true when he said it back then, it is true now.
 
Maybe the information is intended to be used to go after any domestic entities that the government doesn't like or wants to control since it really doesn't seem to work very well in predetermining foreign enemies.

"Those that would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither liberty or safety."

- Benjamin Franklin

It was true when he said it back then, it is true now.
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Man this is f-up to have some other party making notes on people conversation.
What happen to human rights - I guest that's out the door. :damn angry:
 
Not really ' human rights '...those are trampled on by third world and non-democratic countries . This is about OUR constitutional rights and the ' Bill Of Rights '...:worthy:

It all comes down to the current administration and it's leaders agenda to do away with as many of our rights and amendments as he possibly can . Nothing more , nothing less .:damn angry:
 
I would think he had the American people in mind when he blew the whistle and you can bet the enemy already knew about the operation and a lot more.........
 
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