Damn, never thought they would release it!
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Tex85
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Time to file criminal charges against her. Everyone who has held a clearance knows the penalties for neglecting said clearance are severe. Had I done the same thing when my clearance was active I would have been terminated immediately and brought up on criminal charges. My counterparts who were active duty would have been court marshaled and sent to Leavenworth. No one should be above the rules and law. Treason is treason, failure to report a known security issue is the same thing as being the original culprit. If I was required to go through extensive debriefing at a significantly lower level I would imagine it would be common practice for the Secretary of State to do the same.
blaxmax
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Adios.
blaxmax
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I haven't driven a car since 1986.
Traumahawk
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Its time for her to go.
There. Fixed it for you Eric.
MORONS will still vote for her women's rights (Yeah right) DO we have a perfect canadite on either side (NO) they all suck but at this point I am leaning towards Trump or Cruze more towards Trump just because I believe we need to shake things up. Killary deserves to be under the jail :bang head:
Rollie
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Special Access Programs ( SAP ) are a whole different animal...
If she gets away with this it would give a whole new meaning to the term "SAP"!
WHAT ALL AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S ALLEGED SAP COMPROMISE:
My name is Ed Coet. I am a retired US Army Intelligence Officer. In my last job in the army I was the Chief of the Human Intelligence Branch for the US European Command in Stuttgart, Germany. In that capacity I was also the “program manager” for a Special Access Program (SAP) like the SAP that Hillary Clinton is alleged to have compromised in the most recent State Department Inspector General report to congress and which has been widely reported in the news. Here is what I personally know about SAP’s and what I can attest to in an unclassified forum:
1. The names of each SAP are themselves classified Top Secret because the information within the SAP are far and above Top Secret.
2. SAP’s are so sensitive that even people who have security clearances giving them access to Top Secret Sensitive Compartment Information (TS SCI) , an enormously high security clearance level, cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination in to the SAP based on an operational “must know” that exceeds all other “need to know” standards.
3. Being “read on” for a SAP is far more then acknowledging in writing that you have been briefed on the SAP? It is an in depth “indoctrination” in to the given SAP and each SAP is itself compartmented separately from other SAPS. Having access to one SAP does not give you access to another SAP and in fact rarely does. Only a tiny handful of people have knowledge of all SAP’s. SAP’s are the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire US government.
4. Unlike Top Secret SCI which is maintained in highly secure Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilitates (SCIF’s) managed by specially trained Special Security Officers (SSO’s) at various levels of command, every single SAP is managed by an individually designated “program manager” for each individual SAP covering an entire theater of operations. In other words, SAP program managers are far fewer in number than there is SSO’s. SSO’s are not cleared to even know about SAP’s or to maintain information about them in their already enormously secure SCIF’s. How SAP’s are secured cannot be discussed because of the sensitive beyond Top Secret nature in which it is done.
5. Unlike individuals with the highest Top Secret SCI access security clearances, who must undergo a special background information with periodic “bring-up” black ground investigation, those tiny few who have access to SAP’s must also endure periodic polygraph tests in addition to the most comprehensive of special background investigations. I used to have to schedule four star generals and admirals to be polygraphed in order for them to maintain their access to my SAP. Many generals and admirals who obviously have the highest security clearances still did not rate being indoctrinated in to may SAP. In fact, they didn’t even know the SAP existed.
6. Compromise of a SAP is the single most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the USA. Even the enormously damaging revelations of the Edward Snowden’s TOP Secret SCI security compromise does not reach the level of a SAP compromise.
7. To put SAP information in to an unsecure sever like Hillary Clinton’s unsecure server is a class one felony that could, in some cases, result in life in prison. That is because such a compromise is so dangerous that it could and likely will result in the death of people protected by and within the scope of the SAP.
As a former SAP program manager I believe it is inconceivable that if it is verified that Hillary Clinton’s server actually had SAP information on it that she could possibly escape indictment and criminal prosecution. As hard as it is to imagine, that would even be worse then electing to not prosecute a mass murdering serial killer because even they could not inflict as much damage on our country as the compromise of a SAP. Compromise of a SAP not only could but without doubt would cause serious damage to our national security.
If it is true that Hillary Clinton had SAP information on her unsecure server, whether is was marked or not, you can be sure that the FBI WILL bring charges against Hillary Clinton and do an exhaustive investigation to trace back to every single person that had even the tiniest role in this unbelievable security compromise.
If the Attorney General, through “prosecutorial discretion,” elected not to prosecute this crime I believe congress would have no alternative but to impeach her and the FBI would have no choice but to conduct a criminal investigation of her for a deliberate cover up – so grave is this security violation.
If President Obama were to pardon Hillary Clinton for a compromise of tis magnitude he would render himself in history to be an “enemy of the state” and could himself face criminal prosecution – so grave is such a security compromise. Nobody, not even the POTUS gets away with something like this. If anyone could escape persecution for compromising a SAP we are done as a nation. No president who loves his country would ever allow anyone, not even his or her closed and most love relative, to get away with a SAP compromise. It is simply unimaginable that this could ever happen.
If this it is true that Hillary Clinton compromised a SAP then we all should know with certainty, regardless of political persuasion, that she is entirely unfit to hold public office of any kind let alone President of the USA - and ALL Americans should never tolerate it. Compromising a SAP is an absolute “disqualifier” for public office and access to our nations most sensitive information - period.
ED COET
Major, US Army (Retired)
If she gets away with this it would give a whole new meaning to the term "SAP"!
WHAT ALL AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S ALLEGED SAP COMPROMISE:
My name is Ed Coet. I am a retired US Army Intelligence Officer. In my last job in the army I was the Chief of the Human Intelligence Branch for the US European Command in Stuttgart, Germany. In that capacity I was also the “program manager” for a Special Access Program (SAP) like the SAP that Hillary Clinton is alleged to have compromised in the most recent State Department Inspector General report to congress and which has been widely reported in the news. Here is what I personally know about SAP’s and what I can attest to in an unclassified forum:
1. The names of each SAP are themselves classified Top Secret because the information within the SAP are far and above Top Secret.
2. SAP’s are so sensitive that even people who have security clearances giving them access to Top Secret Sensitive Compartment Information (TS SCI) , an enormously high security clearance level, cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination in to the SAP based on an operational “must know” that exceeds all other “need to know” standards.
3. Being “read on” for a SAP is far more then acknowledging in writing that you have been briefed on the SAP? It is an in depth “indoctrination” in to the given SAP and each SAP is itself compartmented separately from other SAPS. Having access to one SAP does not give you access to another SAP and in fact rarely does. Only a tiny handful of people have knowledge of all SAP’s. SAP’s are the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire US government.
4. Unlike Top Secret SCI which is maintained in highly secure Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilitates (SCIF’s) managed by specially trained Special Security Officers (SSO’s) at various levels of command, every single SAP is managed by an individually designated “program manager” for each individual SAP covering an entire theater of operations. In other words, SAP program managers are far fewer in number than there is SSO’s. SSO’s are not cleared to even know about SAP’s or to maintain information about them in their already enormously secure SCIF’s. How SAP’s are secured cannot be discussed because of the sensitive beyond Top Secret nature in which it is done.
5. Unlike individuals with the highest Top Secret SCI access security clearances, who must undergo a special background information with periodic “bring-up” black ground investigation, those tiny few who have access to SAP’s must also endure periodic polygraph tests in addition to the most comprehensive of special background investigations. I used to have to schedule four star generals and admirals to be polygraphed in order for them to maintain their access to my SAP. Many generals and admirals who obviously have the highest security clearances still did not rate being indoctrinated in to may SAP. In fact, they didn’t even know the SAP existed.
6. Compromise of a SAP is the single most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the USA. Even the enormously damaging revelations of the Edward Snowden’s TOP Secret SCI security compromise does not reach the level of a SAP compromise.
7. To put SAP information in to an unsecure sever like Hillary Clinton’s unsecure server is a class one felony that could, in some cases, result in life in prison. That is because such a compromise is so dangerous that it could and likely will result in the death of people protected by and within the scope of the SAP.
As a former SAP program manager I believe it is inconceivable that if it is verified that Hillary Clinton’s server actually had SAP information on it that she could possibly escape indictment and criminal prosecution. As hard as it is to imagine, that would even be worse then electing to not prosecute a mass murdering serial killer because even they could not inflict as much damage on our country as the compromise of a SAP. Compromise of a SAP not only could but without doubt would cause serious damage to our national security.
If it is true that Hillary Clinton had SAP information on her unsecure server, whether is was marked or not, you can be sure that the FBI WILL bring charges against Hillary Clinton and do an exhaustive investigation to trace back to every single person that had even the tiniest role in this unbelievable security compromise.
If the Attorney General, through “prosecutorial discretion,” elected not to prosecute this crime I believe congress would have no alternative but to impeach her and the FBI would have no choice but to conduct a criminal investigation of her for a deliberate cover up – so grave is this security violation.
If President Obama were to pardon Hillary Clinton for a compromise of tis magnitude he would render himself in history to be an “enemy of the state” and could himself face criminal prosecution – so grave is such a security compromise. Nobody, not even the POTUS gets away with something like this. If anyone could escape persecution for compromising a SAP we are done as a nation. No president who loves his country would ever allow anyone, not even his or her closed and most love relative, to get away with a SAP compromise. It is simply unimaginable that this could ever happen.
If this it is true that Hillary Clinton compromised a SAP then we all should know with certainty, regardless of political persuasion, that she is entirely unfit to hold public office of any kind let alone President of the USA - and ALL Americans should never tolerate it. Compromising a SAP is an absolute “disqualifier” for public office and access to our nations most sensitive information - period.
ED COET
Major, US Army (Retired)
Traumahawk
Well-Known Member
You know.....she BELONGS in jail, but with this country going the way that it is, I have serious doubts that she will get there.
Her 'people' are already down playing the whole thing, saying the emails weren't ALL THAT secret.....like they get to re-classify TS documents?
caseyjones955
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Even without this her chances were minute, if there was still a doubt this should clear it up which turns out to be in our best interest. She will never be cuffed or see a jail cell but at least she wont be able to continue the great work of Obama. May not be complete justice but it's a win for us.
^^^^ Agreed! 
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Should be cuffed !! :bang head:
tothemax93
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What bothers me is all the campaigning, Iowa caucus, etc, is business as usual, for Hillary. They need to Indite her and get her out. The longer they wait, the more of a spectacle it's gonna be. It's not just a hope, She broke some big time Laws.
caseyjones955
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I would really enjoy seeing her in an orange jumpsuit along side a hiway picking up garbage.
Another idea, commemorative license plates "100% USA made by Hillart Clinton". I would buy the shit out of that!
Another idea, commemorative license plates "100% USA made by Hillart Clinton". I would buy the shit out of that!
She violated Nat'l. Security regs....can't get much bigger than that in the eyes of the feds! AND on a whole different level than the run of the mill govt. employee....I would imagine this investigation is very complex with maybe the big question being did her actions compromise the safety of any covert personnel or maybe even cause their death?
I can't understand that magnitude of arrogance....fuckin' bitch should be cowering behind a dumpster somewhere hoping nobody spots her instead of trying to sell the country on how great she is!
Makes me sick!
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Traumahawk
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You know, those pics actually make me happy that we still have the electoral college.
Hamilton and the other founders believed that the electors would be able to insure that only a qualified person becomes President. They believed that with the Electoral College no one would be able to manipulate the citizenry. It would act as check on an electorate that might be duped. Hamilton and the other founders did not trust the population to make the right choice. The founders also believed that the Electoral College had the advantage of being a group that met only once and thus could not be manipulated over time by foreign governments or others.
http://www.historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html
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