customizedcreationz
Well-Known Member
I know around me there is almost every station carrying e85 and the abundance of power that can be made from e85 is growing everyday.
So I am just curious of those outside Michigan, how is the e85 availability? My concern is if I convert to e85 and run outside of Michigan, am I going to run into problems finding it as my fuel source?
There is so many pluses to running E85 I can't see why not except.
Some concerns:
1 Availability
2 Not enough educated people to tune for e85
3 Loss of mileage
Octane rating:
E85 is roughly between 112 and 118 octane rating in true form, not 105 as its actually rated at the 300 degree testing we use to achieve that number.
Cooling benefit:
It cools the incoming air, which is super helpful in supercharged and turbo'd applications. I ve personally seen cars running e85 that show a 15-25 degree coolant and oil drop in temp and egt's that drop 175-200 degrees as compared to running gasoline prior.
It burns faster:
It burns faster than gasoline, at a 1:1 air fuel ratio, gasoline burns at 26cm/sec and ethanol burns at 41cm/sec. As you lean the air-to-fuel ratio, Ethanol continues to burn faster than gasoline. This is a major advantage over gasoline because it allows you to use more retarded ignition timing while still extracting maximum power out of the fuel. Retarded ignition timing is good because it allows you start the powerstroke later and harness the mechanical advantage the rod has on the crank as it's tilted rather than directly above crank.
So back to my original and only question.... is E85 available outside of Michigan in a normal abundance?
I am just concerned that I switch to e85, gain more power, pay less at the pump, but lose mpg ( which I am ok with ), and can't find a station to fill me up at.
So I am just curious of those outside Michigan, how is the e85 availability? My concern is if I convert to e85 and run outside of Michigan, am I going to run into problems finding it as my fuel source?
There is so many pluses to running E85 I can't see why not except.
Some concerns:
1 Availability
2 Not enough educated people to tune for e85
3 Loss of mileage
Octane rating:
E85 is roughly between 112 and 118 octane rating in true form, not 105 as its actually rated at the 300 degree testing we use to achieve that number.
Cooling benefit:
It cools the incoming air, which is super helpful in supercharged and turbo'd applications. I ve personally seen cars running e85 that show a 15-25 degree coolant and oil drop in temp and egt's that drop 175-200 degrees as compared to running gasoline prior.
It burns faster:
It burns faster than gasoline, at a 1:1 air fuel ratio, gasoline burns at 26cm/sec and ethanol burns at 41cm/sec. As you lean the air-to-fuel ratio, Ethanol continues to burn faster than gasoline. This is a major advantage over gasoline because it allows you to use more retarded ignition timing while still extracting maximum power out of the fuel. Retarded ignition timing is good because it allows you start the powerstroke later and harness the mechanical advantage the rod has on the crank as it's tilted rather than directly above crank.
So back to my original and only question.... is E85 available outside of Michigan in a normal abundance?
I am just concerned that I switch to e85, gain more power, pay less at the pump, but lose mpg ( which I am ok with ), and can't find a station to fill me up at.
