Bill Seward
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You, obviously are neither politically astute, very well educated nor a gentleman. I base this observation on the fact that thus far in your inane posts you have done nothing but parrot FNN (Fake News Network) and MSNBC talking points.
Although you surely HAVE spent a great deal of time in the “educational” system you seem to have been indoctrinated not… educated. Your “teachers” read “America hating propagandists” must be very proud.
You, seem to have lost sight of the fact that the purpose of civil discourse is to exchange ideas and win others to your point of view. The only way to do this is through the use of sound logic and reasonable argument.
Your CONSTANT use of invective, curse words and the deliberate misspelling of Donald John Trump’s last name and the Word “Republican,” do nothing to bolster your argument. Those of you on the radical left, have decided that in order to “win” your pathetically weak argument, you will simply bully others into silence. And yes, we (Conservatives) are silent… for now.
But make no mistake, that’s because we’re too busy making our way in life to waste time arguing with those of you who are still living in their parents’ basements, playing video games and complaining why YOUR SIDE LOST THE ELECTION OF 2016.
Get over it! We won, you lost and… elections have consequences!
Current political events are the result of a continuum many decades long. Sadly, you just aren’t intellectually sophisticated enough, indeed not well educated enough, for me to waste my time in debating the issues of which you are so ill-informed.
I’ll take a bit of time on this one occasion by listing a FEW things you on the left (and some Republicans) seem so willing to ignore. I will read your response but will not reply because debating illogical people, isn’t worth the effort.
Release the Mueller scope memo.
Release the FISA (Star Chamber Court) memo that was the basis of the ongoing attempted Coup de État of the (duly elected) President of the United States.
Rip apart the inner workings of the Clinton Foundation.
Use the sworn deposition of William Campbell to get the truth about the events surrounding Rosatom a, you guessed it, RUSSIAN Corporation. and the sale of 25%... 25% of United States Uranium reserves to a Canadian foreign national shell corporation, Uranium One.
Get the truth about the death of Seth Rich.
Get the truth about the death of John Ashe.
Get the truth about the death of Victor Thorne.
Get the truth about the death of Shawn Lucas.
Indict James Clapper for perjury before Congress.
Indict Hillary Clinton for destruction of documents pertinent to an ongoing investigation and obstruction of justice.
Indict James Comey for Sedition and the release of classified documents.
Indict John Brennan for Sedition and the release of classified documents.
Find out what happened to the millions of dollars donated by kind hearted people to the Clinton Foundation to help the Hattian People devastated by the earthquake of 2010.
Demand the extradition of Christopher Steel (a foreign agent) to stand trial for DIRECT interference in our United States Presidential election.
Investigate the many examples of how the left stole elections starting with the election stolen by Al Franken who was declared the winner after several boxes of (lost) ballots were found in a car parked in a parking lot over the weekend.
Indict Brenda Snipes for malfeasance of office and the deliberate and willful disenfranchisement of conservative voters in the Dade County Senatorial election of 2018.
Indict Lois Lerner and John Koskinen for using Internal Revenue Service thugs as their own Gestapo.
Indict Eric Holder for running guns into Mexico while he was AGoUS that resulted in the death of Brian Terry.
Find out why the United States is still paying for defense of the European Union and Turkey (now there’s a reliable ally) against the USSR decades after that bankrupt tyranny went under.
Perform an independent (not Navy) investigation the Forrestal disaster.
And on and on and… ON!
You wouldn’t stand a chance in a one-on-one political debate with me bud!
I have edited your posts above to illustrate to others on this list how little of value you have brought to this discussion. Why don’t you keep your mouth shut regarding my President? Rational people, don’t care what insults you may puke up.
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In order.
Bill Seward
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Sad... Let history show Trumpf up for what he truly is.
And I definitely am not your "bud"..
And I definitely am not your "bud"..
The Presidential Records Act (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) requires the President to retain all “documentary material” he or his office receives or creates which “relate to or have a direct effect upon the carrying out of constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President” and to promptly deposit them with the National Archivist. If Trump personally kept the translator’s notes, or worse, destroyed them, instead of turning them over to the National Archivist, he presumptively broke this law.
The Presidential Records Act also mandates that the President take all necessary steps to assure that the “activities, deliberations, decisions and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s… duties are adequately documented… and… preserved.”
More breaking news tonight.
Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
He will not serve out his first term if this is proven to be true.
And I believe there is much more to come, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sad.
Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
He will not serve out his first term if this is proven to be true.
And I believe there is much more to come, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Sad.
effingidiot
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President Donald Trump will be President again in 2020,Topple the fake president Barry Obambi and the rest of the dirty dominos will fall.The dirty bastards.MAGA.
He needs to prove it. Just because Cohen said it DOES NOT mean it is true.
LOL. I've never seen a forum members name that fit them better than yours!
How is that BREXIT thingy going BTW?
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MSNBC,CNN.LOL.
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Brexit is bad,our government is bad,but i don't think it's as rotten as nancy and chucky chuck.Demented democrats.LOL. I've never seen a forum members name that fit them better than yours!
How is that BREXIT thingy going BTW?
Traumahawk
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There is so much misinformation that is being put out there as factual.
Its like several months ago, and people on the left were talking about how racist the founding fathers were....because if you look at the constitution, it talks about black people being 3/5ths of a person.....so obviously the founding fathers were racist.
If you go back and look at the facts....the northern states didnt want black people (slaves) to be counted in a census.....because that would increase the souths "population" to increase their number of representatives in the house of representatives. The southern states wanted to count all of the slaves.....for the same reasons. So, the compromise was.......3/5ths.
I will buy you a beverage of your choice, that Trump WILL serve out his term, with distinction, and will be the republican parties candidate for 2020.
This shows you how the 2 are compared differently in the MSM.
Yeah, it IS sad… sad that gullible people on your side accept, without proof, ANY negative news about the United States President. It’s also sad that the Left accepts this “BOMBSHELL” from a propaganda outfit like Buzzfeed completely WITHOUT attribution!
Search for this quote by the Washington Post… (another Fake News outfit “BuzzFeed News " cites two [UNNAMED] federal law enforcement officials…” Wow! Not one… but TWO… UNNAMED officials. America can accept this “BOMBSHELL” (the what? 100th predicting Trump’s downfall?) With absolute confidence that it’s the TRUTH! They cited Not one… but TWO… UNNAMED officials!
You should quit allowing yourself to be manipulated by a political entity that is about power, control, money and nothing else. All of you on the Left, are being used to accomplish THEIR (Socialist Oligarchs) goal. Make no mistake; when they have achieved these goals, you will be disposed.
Witness what happened to the former Bolsheviks who worked so hard for the butcher, Stalin. He starved 7,000,000 Ukrainians (The Holodomor) to death in order to establish his “Worker’s Paradise” in the name of “Collectivism.” They were the Proletariat… Peasants… those for whom he was purportedly working. They were “Useful Idiots” until they began to think for themselves.
Don’t make the same mistake. Fortunately, in this country, at this time, there are those of us who are fighting to preserve the MOST EGALITARIAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT EVER DEVISED IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY! The United States Constitution. Your side will NEVER bring that down! EVER!
Remember when the Fake News Media and the Left were hounding Donald Trump to pledge, he would accept the results of the election no matter the outcome? At that that time, they were so sure Hillary would win. They had done everything (legal and illegal) in their power to make sure of it. Unfortunately, they were completely unprepared when he DID win. Oops! Now, the Left is fully prepared to DESTROY the Constitution using easily manipulated “Low Information Voters.” WE WON, YOU LOST. Get over it! Elections have consequences.
You are absolutely correct; “there IS [emphasis mine] much more to come;” in 2020, when we re-elect Donald Trump to “KEEP America Great…” for, FOUR MORE YEARS!
Donald Trump is about restoring First Principles of the Constitution. After that, it’s like the great quote attributed to Benjamin Franklin who, when asked by a woman after the Continental Congress finished its work, “What have you given us?” Franklin replied, “We’ve given you a Republic… if you can keep it!”
Oh yeah baby, that’s EXACTLY what we’re going to do. We’re going to KEEP IT!
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In researching Ben Franklin’s statement quoted above, I came upon this link. https://personalliberty.com/a-republic-if-you-can-keep-it/
You should read it; EVERYONE should read it!
With distinction? I suppose you're right. This presidency is the first in US history where the whole world has seen the first lady naked. That's distinct. I remember when Republicans lost their minds when Michelle Obama wore sleeveless dresses. His main source of communication is Twitter and he tweets like an angry teenager. That's distinct. He's eliminated damn near all US trust with our allies. That's distinct. Kim Jong Un fucking PLAYED him like a fool in front of the world. That's distinct. Trump was an absolute coward in Helsinki next to Putin in front of the world. That's distinct. Did you forget when world leaders literally LAUGHED at Trump at the UN? That's distinct.
The US is borrowing money from China to bail out farmers for his trade war with China. Guess who is going to supply China with more soybeans? Russia.He's got the pentagon spinning in circles because they don't know what the hell he wants. He's under FBI counter intelligence investigation. Manaforts lawyers epically failed with their redactment letting everyone know the Trump campaign DID collude with Russia by sharing polling data with a Russian intel asset. He deliberately concealed all records of all five of his one on ones with Putin. His former lawyer that made hush money pay offs during Trumps presidential campaign to porn stars Trump raw dogged. I'd like to remind you that Trump lied every damn step of the way when it came to that. He owns the longest government shutdown in US history. That's distinct. The biggest drop of the DOW in a single day was under his administration. That's distinct. He broke the Secret Service's budget his first year. That's distinct. And while I never make fun of anyones looks, the orange crap he wears is HIS choice and it looks ridiculous. That's most definitely distinct.
And you speak of misinformation while you speak of "distinction" of one of the most prolific liars in US political history. Whether its him saying Mexico will pay for the wall 100%(he even laid out how he was going to force them to pay for it on his campaign website), or that he never said Mexico was going to pay for it, or trade wars are easy to win, or ISIS is defeated, or he never slept with Stormy Daniels, he never paid them off, he knows more about drones than anybody, no one has been tougher on Russia than him... the list goes on and on.
I don't think the word distinction will be associated to Trump in the history books like you think it will. He may serve out his first term thanks to GOP that's letting him , but he will be going to jail and like Manafort, he will be spending his last years there.
The principles of the constitution are checks and balances between three branches of government. Trump has been speaking just this week of using executive power to declare a national emergency to circumvent the legislative process! And you're trying to claim its Trump that's the constitutionalist? Unreal.
But I suspect you'll say he has to because the evil Dems are are leaving him no choice despite the fact that multiple bills have passed the House. Yet McConnell won't even allow a vote on them in the Senate. Why is that? Because he either knows it WILL pass the Senate or fears it might pass and then Trump will veto it. With a Trump veto there would be no denying whose to blame for the shutdown. The GOP would have to completely own it.
So they're deliberately holding it up so they can play "blame the Dems" game. And if you're considering trying to claim McConnell won't put it up for a vote because he knows it would fail the Senate... that doesnt hold any water for a party that tried to repeal Obamacare like 70 times. Clearly they have no problem with wasting time on failures.
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Traumahawk
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Did I ever say that trump is a constitionalist? Please show me where i wrote that?
I did say that there is a LOT of mis information out there.
Hmmmm the precedent has been set before.....
You may want to see the messsage I quoted. I wasn't speaking to you with the response.
Edit: also -- Executive Orders are what Obama was speaking about. Something presidents have been doing for a while now. Including Trump. We're all too familiar with those photo ops of Trump showing the cameras after he signed them. Those have limitations. Trump has been talking this week about declaring a national emergency which is entirely different and you know it.
Side note: my browser does wonky things with this new forum format hence the edits.
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Just to remind folks in case they think Trump is being treated differently. Back in 2016 when even most Republicans thought Clinton was going to be president, they were bragging about preparing for YEARS of investigations on her. So no, Trump isn't being treated any differently than Hillary would have been treated.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...ffetz-years-of-clinton-investigations-to-come
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...ffetz-years-of-clinton-investigations-to-come
For any Trump die hard that thinks he should declare a national emergency to get his wall, I'll just say this -- let's play pretend. Pretend Trump does this and sets a new precedent. Pretend in 2020 Dems win the White House. Let's pretend the GOP still holds the Senate. Democrats try to pass some gun legislation. The GOP strikes it down. Then we have another mass shooting because we all know it's going to happen. So then based on the precedent established by Trump, and the gridlock in congress, President Alexandria Pocahontas Harris decides to declare a national emergency and pass sweeping gun reform.
That's the reality if Trump does this. That's what will happen. No one should want Trump to do what he's been talking of doing.
That's the reality if Trump does this. That's what will happen. No one should want Trump to do what he's been talking of doing.
Traumahawk
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I did go back, and yes, it wasnt me that you were speaking to, sorry. You do know that is a bluff to get dems to the table to talk about reforms to immigration, AKA the wall.
Obama was also talking about immigration.....and making changes with a phone and a pen because things couldnt get thru congress.
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