Mattis Resignation...

[Conman]

I see it as causing hard-feelings between and among members. A Libertarian might say, "let everyone have access to whatever mind-altering substances they want, if you don't you're stifling freedom of choice." I don't want people shooting up in my neighborhood, smoking methamphetamine, and exhibiting whatever socially-oppressive, drug-influenced behavior they do because of their consumption.

Here, I don't want someone saying, "that prick, he's for Trump, I need parts but I'm damned if I give that guy my money!" or "OMG, he's for AOC, I want the used pick-up coil he's selling, but he can go lick Hillary's cankles before I give him my money!"

I assume you understand my reasoning.

Oh I know exactly what you mean and I know there are people that think like that, but I trust the people who are worth doing business with to understand that it’s the Burnout Pit and it’s main purpose is to let people say and read (or choose not to read) things other people may not like.

People posting in heated debates should (and probably do) understand that the person on the other end may no longer want to sell to them, and imo if they want to argue let them have at it because as adults they can choose to have a heated debate/argument amongst themselves (one which anyone can choose to no longer take part in by simply ignoring the thread/not responding) and live with the consequences.


Most importantly, I see no reason that you or I should be worried about any sort of recourse for letting other people have it out with each other.

 

[Eugene Brad]

I’ve been pretty entertained by the arguments but I see your point, FM. Let’s all just agree to disagree when needed.
I like to think in my hopeful optimism that even though we all can have disagreements and even harsh words we still have the mindset to help our neighbors and especially our Vmax brothers no matter political view. But I could be wrong, the divide is pretty deep and wide these days.

 

[Edward]

Agreed. Close it.

Isn't that just like a democrat? When you can't win your argument with logic, you just walk out! Your side did it in Texas years ago, again in Wisconsin (legislators actually LEFT the state!) and again with this question of the CRISIS on the border. The opinion of those on your side; "open the government and then we WON'T talk about the border crisis." When asked whether the democrats were holding discussions over a compromise with Trump her answer was (let me see if I can remember her exact wording...) Oh yeah, I remember... "NO!"

Look at your word count on this thread. You have probably twice what I have and I am writing a lot. Yeah, "Close it.." because you are LOSING the DEBATE. Everything you post is focused on bashing my "tribe' . You have proposed NO solutions... just like the democrats under Nattering Nancy and Cryin' Chuck. You want to have your say, then cut off debate.

That what your side does time after time after time!! Why don't you hop on the plane with Nancy and the democrats for their rescheduled junket to Brussels, Egypt and Afghanistan. Maybe they are going to go to Hawaii on a "fact finding mission." That should be fun.

The entire Legislature was invited to the southern border to see first hand, the ongoing crisis there. How many attended? Ten! All Republicans. I curse BOTH sides for this dereliction of duty. BOTH SIDES!

 

[Edward]

...no-need to antagonize one-another over differing political beliefs. Nothing said here is gonna change anyone's view, I hope this is soon a closed thread.

What's wrong with antagonizing one-another? The alienation is already there. What's to be gained by refusing to engage verbally? Answer, hatred! Discourse is a human safety valve. Your logic is ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

I, for one, am not spending time here to convince the likes of Billy or Kronx. They will NEVER admit there is another side to the discussion... NEVER!! I am here to demonstrate that we conservatives will not be silenced by their "BULLYING" another word the left LOVES!

Look over my posts and see how many times I have used the word "you." As few as possible. Bill Seward and Kronx are all about outright HATRED of my side! I will not be shouted down by someone who does nothing but scream.

 

[Edward]

I see it as causing hard-feelings between and among members. A Libertarian might say, "let everyone have access to whatever mind-altering substances they want, if you don't you're stifling freedom of choice." I don't want people shooting up in my neighborhood, smoking methamphetamine, and exhibiting whatever socially-oppressive, drug-influenced behavior they do because of their consumption.

Here, I don't want someone saying, "that prick, he's for Trump, I need parts but I'm damned if I give that guy my money!" or "OMG, he's for AOC, I want the used pick-up coil he's selling, but he can go lick Hillary's cankles before I give him my money!"

I assume you understand my reasoning.

Fire-medic, I am, in fact, a libertarian but your illustration is classic "reducio ad absurdum." There is an OCEAN of difference between your example and the free discussion of a contentious subject.
Libertarians understand that "..." A person's right to swing his arm ENDS at the tip of the other guy's nose." Drug addicts can do whatever they want with their own bodies. When they steal to support that life choice, they go to jail. Neither do I believe individuals have the right to shit in the street like they do in San Francisco. Needles are dangerous to others in the society and leaving them lying around (I hope) is against the law. Governments have a sworn obligation to protect the larger society and enforce bans on behavior that is deleterious to that society.

 

[Edward]

Trumpf is taking us down the road to a dictatorship a lot faster than me.

Sad that someone like you, with your attitude of superiority and willingness to twist posts to make some point you're harping on cannot see this.

And you're not gonna do anything with me... Belittling comments like that show you up for the kind of person you truly are.

You know absolutely NOTHING about what "kind of person" I am. This is just more ad hominem and as is true in Kronx's case, adds NOTHING to the force of your argument. Personal insult is the last refuge of a coward. It PROVES you lack confidence in your position. Stay on topic Bill.

Re: "Trump[] is taking us down the road to a dictatorship a lot faster than me."
Now you've added hyperbole to you list of fallacious reasoning. "Trump[]..." NO, Nancy and Chuck and their obstinate, childish minions are taking us there using the Socialism road so well-traveled by failed governments of which, Venezuela is but the latest example!

I only belittle when I chose to belittle. It was no accident and it was a response to your DELIBERATE misuse of my NAME.

That wasn't belittling on your part... it was just SMALL! Like your deliberate misspelling of "Trump." If you can't take it, don't give it out!

Again, because you seem to have a pathological obsession with the denial of this fact, "DONALD J. TRUMP won the election of 2016. WE won, YOU lost... GET OVER IT! Elections have consequences!

 

[85 MAX-fan]

I've read enough of your crap, Eddie. You're blocked.

 

[85 MAX-fan]

but he can go lick Hillary's cankles

You sick son of a.....

 

[85 MAX-fan]

The thing is though that the crime rate attributed to the undocumented is significantly lower than the rest of the US population. We'd be safer if they made up more of the population.

That's a great point!!

Why even try to vet those that come into our country. We should embrace the cartel soldiers, human traffickers, child molesters, and all criminals equally.