Alaska State Fair -vs- Free Speech?

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:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh: Yes, Obama...... If we impeach him we've still got the Axis of Idiots to take his place....
 
" wow " everyone should watch the whole tape ! ... That poor guy could be any of ours father , where are his freedom of speech wrights ? ... And fuck that cop that comes over & flashes his badge , stating , "I'm a state trooper , back up " , and stands there for 2 minutes and then disappears because he's worried about it being taped and if he will still get his pension ! ... WHAT A FUCKING PUSSY ! ! ! ... He should of helped the old guy on the ground !
 
Yup, it happened.

There is alot more to the story, it's pretty funny. The fairgrounds is not a public land. it's like you charging for a BBQ and having someone sneak in and start saying kill your rides and go electric. The fair personell have the right to tell you to leave if they choose. after all it is private property. They've done it in the past. Dude also was carrying a gun, big ol sign outside states no firearms inside the fairgrounds.

As for the trooper who dissapeared, as you can hear in the video there was a crowd forming and starting to get a little wound up. I dunno Tim, keep in mind that children go the the fair, and how would you feel about having your son suddenly get caught up in the middle of a mass amount of people yelling and others running to gawk. He was just trying to get the people back and the scene mellowed. You can see little kids in the video.

practically everything is considered a "state fair" up here for some reason. The one in my town is called the tanana valley state fair.

I would have liked to have seen the guy sober and have paid for a booth. Now that would have been an interesting thing to see. He's always floating around palmer with his sign. I think that would have been classic. It's been done in the past with Bush Sr. in office, and it was hilarious. The booth was next to the booth that sold the "Fuck Iraq" shirts.
 
Glad to see your feedback, KJ. I almost addressed the post to you for verification to begin with. (I don't do much Snopesing)

Just goes to show: there's always two sides to a story, I guess.
 
KJ , YOU ARE RIGHT , I WOULDN'T LIKE A BUNCH OF SHIT GOING ON IN FRONT OF MY SON , OR ANYONE ELSE'S CHILDREN AT ALL AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR A SINGLE PERSONS PROTEST , BUT MY THING IS , WHEN THE STATE TROOPER IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS SUCH , HE SHOULD HAVE TAKING OVER THE SCENE ! ... STAND THE OLD GUY UP & GET THAT GORILLA"S KNEE OUT OF HIS BACK ! ... AND THEN ESCORT HIM OFF THE FAIR GROUNDS & INTO THE GESTAPO'S HANDS IF NEED BE ! ... OR DON'T GET INVOLVED AT ALL ! ... HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS A STATE TROOPER & THEN JUST LEAVE TWO MINUTES LATER & LEAVE THE OLD GUY WITH TWO GOONS LAYING ON HIM ? .. :confused2:
 
WHEN THE STATE TROOPER IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS SUCH , HE SHOULD HAVE TAKING OVER THE SCENE ! ... STAND THE OLD GUY UP & GET THAT GORILLA"S KNEE OUT OF HIS BACK ! ... AND THEN ESCORT HIM OFF THE FAIR GROUNDS & INTO THE GESTAPO'S HANDS IF NEED BE ! ... OR DON'T GET INVOLVED AT ALL ! ... HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS A STATE TROOPER & THE JUST LEAVE ? .. :confused2:

He did, the old guy with the gun was already taken care of buy the musclehead security, no active issue there anymore. Last I heard on that was he was going to sue the security people, then suddenly backed out.

The only active threat now was the increasing public in the area starting to yell, stir up others and advance on the scene. he went to deal with that, the PD showed up a few min's later to clear out the protestor and dispurse the crowd. I wouldn't have done things all that much different. 2 on one wouldn't concern me, it would be the increasingly rambunctious crowd with the people trying to insite shit that would get my attention.
 
Where Was The Gun ? ... And Obviously The Tape Isn't Telling The Whole Story ! ... Its Just Showing Him Leave !
 
yeah, he had a gun on him. here is a little more to the story:





Armed protester arrested at Alaska State Fair

by Jason Lamb
9:36 PM AKDT, August 27, 2010
ANCHORAGE, Alaska

A video taken Thursday at the Alaska State Fair is getting major attention online. It shows a political activist being restrained and arrested for criminal mischief -- but did fair security guards threaten his right to free speech?

Hundreds of people have watched the video on YouTube overnight THursday. State fair officials say they viewed the incident with protester Sidney Hill as a public safety issue, and not a threat to Hill's free-speech rights.

“This is free speech, leave me alone!” Hill said in the video.

The video, shot by a bystander Thursday, begins as a security guard is asking Hill -- a political activist and supporter of national candidate Lyndon LaRouche -- to leave the fair. Officials say Hill was approached after people complained to fair security that he had been disrupting entertainment at the fairgrounds.

“Who's for impeaching Obama and saving America?” Hill asked the crowd.

The situation quickly escalates as Hill refuses to leave. In front of dozens of onlookers, fair security pins him to the ground -- as members of the crowd tell the guards that Hill has a right to political free speech at the fair.

“This is wrong!” someone in the crowd exclaimed.

“Does anybody want to help me? Does anybody want to help?” Hill asked.

An off-duty state trooper arrived to control the crowd.

“State troopers! You want to go to jail? Back off! Back off!” the trooper says.
Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair’s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

“We feel like we responded appropriately,” Phipps said. “Because we are the state fair, everyone thinks we're part of the State of Alaska. We're not -- we're a non-profit.”

Phipps says there are several other political groups at the fair, but they all have to follow rules -- including staying within an assigned booth, and not walking around in the open like Hill was.

“They aren't allowed to walk up and down the aisle or congregate in public places, particularly when it’s interfering with the fairgoers’ experience,” Phipps said.

Fair officials say they don't view the force that the guards used as excessive.

“They're required to restrain until they can sort it out, so I don't think it was excessive from that standpoint, particularly when they discovered he had a loaded weapon he brought onto the fairgrounds,” Phipps said.

After police arrested Hill Thursday, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and criminal mischief.

Contact Jason Lamb at [email protected]

Copyright ? 2010, KTUU-TV
 
Due to the recent cutbacks from the O'bamanomics policies , all P.T. classes for the security company have been discontinued ! :rofl_200:
 

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