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Whether you believe GM's demise was justified or not, (and everyone will have their own theory of cause and effect) I am blown away by they way the vultures carved up the cash on GM's carcass.

Once again the banks walk away with all of 'their' cash and everyone else loses.

Didn't the bank's create the economic conditions that assured GM's failure? Why do they get their cash out of the bankruptcy?

This article was sourced from http://www.gregpalast.com/grand-theft-auto-how-stevie-the-rat-bankrupted-gm/

Have a read of this...

Grand Theft Auto: How Stevie the Rat bankrupted GM

by Greg Palast - Monday, June 1, 2009


They may be crying about General Motors' bankruptcy today. But dumping 40,000 of the last 60,000 union jobs into a mass grave won't spoil Jamie Dimon's day.

Dimon is the CEO of JP Morgan Chase bank. While GM workers are losing their retirement health benefits, their jobs, their life savings; while shareholders are getting zilch and many creditors getting hosed, a few privileged GM lenders – led by Morgan and Citibank – expect to get back 100% of their loans to GM, a stunning $6 billion.

The way these banks are getting their $6 billion bonanza is stone cold illegal.

I smell a rat.

Stevie the Rat, to be precise. Steven Rattner, Barack Obama's 'Car Czar' - the man who essentially ordered GM into bankruptcy this morning.

When a company goes bankrupt, everyone takes a hit: fair or not, workers lose some contract wages, stockholders get wiped out and creditors get fragments of what's left. That's the law. What workers don't lose are their pensions (including old-age health funds) already taken from their wages and held in their name.

But not this time. Stevie the Rat has a different plan for GM: grab the pension funds to pay off Morgan and Citi.

Here's the scheme: Rattner is demanding the bankruptcy court simply wipe away the money GM owes workers for their retirement health insurance. Cash in the insurance fund would be replaced by GM stock. The percentage may be 17% of GM's stock - or 25%. Whatever, 17% or 25% is worth, well ... just try paying for your dialysis with 50 shares of bankrupt auto stock.

Yet Citibank and Morgan, says Rattner, should get their whole enchilada - $6 billion right now and in cash - from a company that can't pay for auto parts or worker eye exams.

Preventive Detention for Pensions

So what's wrong with seizing workers' pension fund money in a bankruptcy? The answer, Mr. Obama, Mr. Law Professor, is that it's illegal.



In 1974, after a series of scandalous take-downs of pension and retirement funds during the Nixon era, Congress passed the Employee Retirement Income Security Act. ERISA says you can't seize workers' pension funds (whether monthly payments or health insurance) any more than you can seize their private bank accounts. And that's because they are the same thing: workers give up wages in return for retirement benefits.

The law is darn explicit that grabbing pension money is a no-no. Company executives must hold these retirement funds as "fiduciaries." Here's the law, Professor Obama, as described on the government's own web site under the heading, "Health Plans and Benefits."

"The primary responsibility of fiduciaries is to run the plan solely in the interest of participants and beneficiaries and for the exclusive purpose of providing benefits."

Every business in America that runs short of cash would love to dip into retirement kitties, but it's not their money any more than a banker can seize your account when the bank's a little short. A plan's assets are for the plan's members only, not for Mr. Dimon nor Mr. Rubin.

Yet, in effect, the Obama Administration is demanding that money for an elderly auto worker's spleen should be siphoned off to feed the TARP babies. Workers go without lung transplants so Dimon and Rubin can pimp out their ride. This is another "Guantanamo" moment for the Obama Administration - channeling Nixon to endorse the preventive detention of retiree health insurance.

Filching GM's pension assets doesn't become legal because the cash due the fund is replaced with GM stock. Congress saw through that switch-a-roo by requiring that companies, as fiduciaries, must

"...act prudently and must diversify the plan's investments in order to minimize the risk of large losses."

By "diversify" for safety, the law does not mean put 100% of worker funds into a single busted company's stock.

This is dangerous business: The Rattner plan opens the floodgate to every politically-connected or down-on-their-luck company seeking to drain health care retirement funds.



House of Rubin

Pensions are wiped away and two connected banks don't even get a haircut? How come Citi and Morgan aren't asked, like workers and other creditors, to take stock in GM?

As Butch said to Sundance, who ARE these guys? You remember Morgan and Citi. These are the corporate Welfare Queens who've already sucked up over a third of a trillion dollars in aid from the US Treasury and Federal Reserve. Not coincidentally, Citi, the big winner, has paid over $100 million to Robert Rubin, the former US Treasury Secretary. Rubin was Obama's point-man in winning banks' endorsement and campaign donations (by far, his largest source of his corporate funding).

With GM's last dying dimes about to fall into one pocket, and the Obama Treasury in his other pocket, Morgan's Jamie Dimon is correct in saying that the last twelve months will prove to be the bank's "finest year ever."

Which leaves us to ask the question: is the forced bankruptcy of GM, the elimination of tens of thousands of jobs, just a collection action for favored financiers?

And it's been a good year for Se?or Rattner. While the Obama Administration made a big deal out of Rattner's youth spent working for the Steelworkers Union, they tried to sweep under the chassis that Rattner was one of the privileged, select group of investors in Cerberus Capital, the owners of Chrysler. "Owning" is a loose term. Cerberus "owned" Chrysler the way a cannibal "hosts" you for dinner. Cerberus paid nothing for Chrysler - indeed, they were paid billions by Germany's Daimler Corporation to haul it away. Cerberus kept the cash, then dumped Chrysler's bankrupt corpse on the US taxpayer.

("Cerberus," by the way, named itself after the Roman's mythical three-headed dog guarding the gates Hell. Subtle these guys are not.)

While Stevie the Rat sold his interest in the Dog from Hell when he became Car Czar, he never relinquished his post at the shop of vultures called Quadrangle Hedge Fund. Rattner's personal net worth stands at roughly half a billion dollars. This is Obama's working class hero.

If you ran a business and played fast and loose with your workers' funds, you could land in prison. Stevie the Rat's plan is nothing less than Grand Theft Auto Pension.

It doesn't make it any less of a crime if the President drives the getaway car.

******

Economist and journalist Greg Palast, a former trade union contract negotiator, is author of the New York Times bestsellers The Best Democracy Money Can Buy and Armed Madhouse. He is a GM bondholder and card-carrying member of United Automobile Workers Local 1981.

Palast's latest reports for BBC Television and Democracy Now! are collected on the newly released DVD, "Palast Investigates: from 8-Mile to the Amazon - on the trail of the financial marauders."
 
yes its a sad day....anything that has a govmt. hand in it will have some transactions we dont approve of:rofl_200:.

i feel bad 4 the people that wil loose their jobs...

if gm would have trimmed the fat 20 yrs ago......this prolly would not have 2 happen.

also...i have no faith in unions...PERIOD!
 
Well. I don't think we can point the finger at the banks exclusively.

1.) People were mortgaging houses - and using that equity to get loans for vehicles and the very possessions they put in their homes.

2.) Peoples entire lively hood was resting on one single intrest point.

3.) The big three had nothing to offer in regards to fuel economy. When gas prices went up - people living on the brink were forced to give up large SUV's and trucks (most of which were owned by familes - who just "wanted" a big vehicle) and had no actual use for their capabilities.



All these points point fault at everyone...

1.) Banks lending money to...
2.) People who were living WAY beyond their means, and they had to have the....
3.) Biggest SUV / Truck money could buy.


Recipe for disaster.



What ever happened to buying things with cash?
I always have. Sure I don't have the fanciest cars, the nicest home, the nicest leather furniture money can buy -

I also recognize that not everybody has that option. I really do understand this. But the crash is mainly because of people living beyond their means,
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What i cant figure out is how the fuck 3 years ago they started loosing money but yet no one did anything about it . There is too much "Dont worry the Government will bail us out ". Why the fuck should they , they should be made accontable for their actions . :bang head:
 
If you all remember back about 3-4 years ago, every time you turned on the news or listened to the radio, all you heard about were everybody driving those damn "gas guzzling suv's". It was never just suv's, but gas guzzling suv's. I told many people back then, " just watch gas prices here in a year or two, they will skyrocket so people get away from big vehicles" Also, when gas was over $4 a gallon 9 months before election, everyone said high gas prices were here for good. I bet two guys $100 that by election day gas would be less than $2.50 a gal. Enjoyed that money too. The government wants us all to be driving go-carts back and forth to work, but take a spin to your state capital and see what they drive! If Ford makes it without taking hand-outs, they will be the only one left making something bigger than a Yugo. In the next four years this administration will try to take over control of anything and everything they can.
 
What i cant figure out is how the fuck 3 years ago they started loosing money but yet no one did anything about it . There is too much "Dont worry the Government will bail us out ". Why the fuck should they , they should be made accontable for their actions . :bang head:

Our country was founded with these ideals... I guess that means nothing now...

We wanted "change" and well I guess WE got it...:damn angry:

Thanks to all of you that voted for change... I'd have rather seen govt stay out of private affairs...:bang head:
 
lovely article and a good piece of investigative journalism.

Any body ever hear of the greater fool theory??

I definetly feel that easy credit for the consumer started all this, it created a zero saving, high debt lifestyle, fueled the housing market bubble, drove home prices through the roof.

Throw in home equity borrowing to fuel more credit card debt causing people to get in so far over their moronic heads they can't afford what they signed on for and you've got a bubble pop..

The car industry isn't the problem, it's a symptom of the housing market bubble pop and the fear of buying anything right now based on peoples uncertainy. People aren't not buying just trucks and suvs, they aren't buying ANYTHING right now

Once the financial guys saw the ripe market conditions for mortgage backed securities then the circle was complete because then the motivation to push easy loans to unworthy buyers was there in order to create more mortgages to package and sell on the market.

But he unworthy buyers share the blame as well, they signed the fucking note didn't they?

And pleading stupid isn't a defense either!

The greater fool theory is that a product or commodity's intrinsic and true worth isn't important,

What it's worth is whatever you can get someone to buy it for.
And it's OK to pay a stupid price for something as long as you can get a "greater fool than you" to pay more for it than you did.

Most of the time these things self regulate and ther markets make some sense.

But when emotions and MANIA come into play all bets are off.
When emotions drive money decisions then it's time to get out, a bubble is on it's way.

I know most of you can remember the tech stock bubble that came before this real estate bubble. pure emotion.

For Christs Sake, didn't any of those ass clowns know what a good P/E ratio is? Buying stocks with low/low earnings and p/e's in the 50"s and 60"s, of course someone is gonna lose their ass eventually on deals like these,


This book was written 150 years ago and it's more relevant now than it was then

"Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" look it up

It's just a matter of who gets left holding the bag when the music stops.

This time it's the taxpayer holding the bag because some of these companies are "too big to fail"............
Which I call bulshit on as well, ............no company is too big to fail, that's what we have bankruptcy for in the first place, yes people are going to lose jobs and it's going to hurt ............but that's how it's supposed to work if the overall economy is going to be strong.

We don't need weak players or the whole thing becomes weak.

The car industry isn't the problem, it's a symptom of the housing market bubble pop and the fear of buying anything right now based on peoples uncertainy.

I don't think suvs and trucks are the problem either, Detriot has been building what the consumer wants.

Not what the government thinks the consumer needs.
When Detriot builds what the gov't forces them to because that's what the gov't thinks the consumer needs then the only way it's going to work is if that is the only choice available to the consumer due to extraordinarily high gas taxes, excise taxes on non-PC vehicles and forced gas mileage standards.

The new CAFE standards are going to hold back recovery as well, no one I know is in a hurry to go buy a shit box car tha gets 40mpg and quit driving what they have, when they, and me replace what I've got the only way I'll get something different is through some external pressure applied by the gov't..as outlined above.....

When (not if) the economy recovers people are going to go right back to buying large vehicles, they need them.

Anyone who thinks a family of four living somewhere outside a major metropolita area, with a home and a yard to take care of can get by with a cracker jack shitbox economy car is out of their fucking minds....

This isn't Europe with a polulation density of a billion per square mile and only the mega rich living in a home with a yard or acreage.


When the taxpayer has to start propping up weak companies to save jobs then we are straight into Socialism and I fucking hate it!

And yes I worked for one of the worlds largest bankrupt chemical companys (lyondellbasell) and I thank god they filed bankruptcy in order to work through this thing the way it's supposed to be done and not on the tax payers back.

But I still think the same theory applied to my company, they ran up debt expanding and buying like the manna from heaven was never going to stop falling, and didn't prepare for the normal cyclic downturns that happen in the chemical industry, that basically follow the reccessions we have every 5-7 years

Yesterday was my last day at a company I've been with for 18 years, they offered a two weeks pay per year of service severance, I went and found a better job and then took their severance pay.

This bubble stuff has gone on for hundreds of years.

Google "tulip bulb mania", "south sea company bubble", "Mississipi company bubble"

I subscribe to the chaos theory meaning I don't believe in conspiracies or intentional evil working in concert to make these things happen, just that small degrees of actions by lots of people cause it to happen. ocassionally mania rears it head.

Yes, when big opportunities present themselves then big players step in with big money and prey on people, but NONE of this would have happened if people had not have bought homes they could not afford. And had not done it on adjustable rate mortgages.

And I can not for the life of me figure out how people justify walking away from a home just because it's worth less than they paid for it, that doesn't effect their ability to pay for it, the capital on the note didn't go up.....You just made a gamble on the "greater fool theory" and lost, it doesn't give you the right to walk away anymore than losing in Vega should be paid back by the taxpayer.
Eventually, the home will be worth what you paid for it and more, just not today or tomorrow. Homes aren't short term investments..Regardless of some of the stupid crap on late night TV I run across.


I do believe the current slide into socialism is going to ruin this country as it has every other country it's been tried, it has always failed, the countries that have tried it are now veering away from it and back into free market capitalism.

There was an article the other day in Pravda calling the American people sheep for doing this and following Oboma down this road to socialist/communist hell that Russia has already experienced.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/

it breaks my fucking heart to read it.


When will people ever figure out that when you TAX away peoples incentive to do well then they are just gonna do like everyone else and lay around on their ass and let the government take care of them.

You cannot tax a country into prosperity,

And if you took away every single dime from those making 500.000 or more and divided it up equally amongst all the rest they wouldn't make a hills worth of bean out of it and the now poor rich people would most likely be rich again withing 10 years, unless they say "fuck it all" and give up.....


Two things should happen in my book, but they go against free market ideas so much that I can't really say I'm for them...

Mortgages should not be able to be traded around like an underage Siagon whore. That will remove the short term specualators from the mortgage market.

Home equity lines of credit should be illegal, they were in Texas for years until about 15 years ago and the results are obvious, they allow foolish people to get in too deep and totally fuck up thier lives.
Fucking up their lives is OK with me but if the end result is the gov't takes money out of my pocket at gunpint to fix the other persons problem then the loans should be illegal in the first place.


And for all those morons that voted for Obama, thanks, you're getting exactly what he said he would do, socialism and lack of personal responsibilty, a lack of fools having to suffer the responsibilty of thier own actions and instead a "spread the wealth" "spread the pain" mentality.

And next time that fucking idiot uses the phrase "working class" Americans I want you to think about this.....

It only takes $29000 bucks to put you in the top half of American earners.

When they talk about working class they aren't talking about us in general, they think those of us who are craftsmen and skilled workers knocking down $60-100K a year are RICH!!!! and I guess by defintion a lot of us are, last time I looked it only took about $75000 to put you in the top 7% of earners.

So next time your ears perk up because you here how they are going to help working class americans by cutting their taxes and taxing the rich more remember who they are REALLY talking about.

Here is another fact.

Who is really paying the taxes

The top 1% pay 34.27% of all income taxes
The top 5% of earners pay 54.36%
The top 10% pay 65.84%
The top 25% pay 83.88%
The top 50% pay 96.54%

Who is really earning the money

The top 1% earns 16.77% of all income
The top 5% earns 31.18% of all the income
The top 10% earns 42.36% of all the income
The top 25% earns 64.86% of all the income
and the top 50% earns 86.01% of all the income.


The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.46% of all income taxes

The bottom 50% of income earners only pay 3.45% of the total tax load in this country but earn 14% of all the money


We can't keep shifting the tax load further and further up the brackets, eventually Atlas Will Shrug and then we are all fucked,

Personally I want more rich people, poor people don't create jobs or buy cars and homes full of expensive stuff that keeps this economy going.

They keep talking about giving the poor a tax cut but by definition the poor are paying hardly any taxes already, giving them a tax cut simply amounts to more welfare by giving them more back than they put in, that money came out of yours and mine pockets my friends.


there is a big 'effin difference between creating wealth and re-distributing it.

TANSTAAFL
 
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