Bawls, Thanks much for posting here. I had forgotten that I had joined this site. Don't really know that many people here, except Sean Morley and Bawls. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers, here it is , 8 days after the wreck and they haven't put me in the hospital yet. Too much swelling to operate at this point. As the swelling goes down and things can move, the pain is getting worse. You guys be careful out there, as this is no way to celebrate the middle of summer! Thanks again for your posts, as I am home alone and getting more discouraged by the day. It means alot to read your well wishes. John jvmax85(here and VMOA forum) Lonewolf on the M109 forum.