shifting to neutral

[slowpoke]

ok ive always had some issues putting the 05 into neutral once up to operating temperature but i just assumed it was because of dirty oil(had amsoil 10-40). well i changed the oil to royal purple max cycle 10-40. and while it ran much smoother i still have a hard time getting it into nuetral once the oil starts to heat up from riding. am i using the wrong oil or do i have a problem brewing in the transmission? i can put it into neutral flawlessly every time as soon as i shut the engine off while hot ori can put it into neutral while running if the engine is cold still.

side note. i thought i might have had air in the clutch. so i looked and noticed the fluid had been cooked by the po. so i flushed it out and bled it manually. have a better feeling clutch now but the problem still happens.

 

[vmaxinID]

How many miles on her?

 

[slowpoke]

right at 13,000 milesbut its been doing this for the 2000 miles that ive owned her

 

[vmax190]

ok ive always had some issues putting the 05 into neutral once up to operating temperature but i just assumed it was because of dirty oil(had amsoil 10-40). well i changed the oil to royal purple max cycle 10-40. and while it ran much smoother i still have a hard time getting it into nuetral once the oil starts to heat up from riding. am i using the wrong oil or do i have a problem brewing in the transmission? i can put it into neutral flawlessly every time as soon as i shut the engine off while hot ori can put it into neutral while running if the engine is cold still.

side note. i thought i might have had air in the clutch. so i looked and noticed the fluid had been cooked by the po. so i flushed it out and bled it manually. have a better feeling clutch now but the problem still happens.

i have had the same problem ever since it was new, i'm surprised nobody else have ever posted this. dave

 

[slowpoke]

i know the st1100s had similar problems and the way riders fixed thier problems was by running dot 5 fluid in the clutch. ( mine had dot 3 in it but the cap said dot 3 OR 4 so i figured i was ok....

 

[slowpoke]

so i take it this is a common problem ill have to just live with? :ummm:

 

[vmax190]

so i take it this is a common problem ill have to just live with? :ummm:

yea, thats kinda the way i look at it, is your's hard to move with the clutch in while running? mine is, i would say they relate.

 

[red98vmax]

Mine's not too bad, but I find it a lot easier to shift into neutral while it is still moving, even a little.

Steve

 

[vmax190]

yep it's alot easier, once i'm stopped it's almost impossible to get into neutral.

 

[John R]

I have an '06 and it has been that way from day one. I just figured it was operator error. Once I'm stopped and the motor is hot, I can't find neutral to save my life.

 

[slowpoke]

for those who have the issue, what brake fluid are you running in your clutch?

 

[kaboom]

From reading other posts here......it appears this is fairly common......

The solutions I have read in other posts are to raise the RPM's a little.....

Let the clutch out a little......

Or shift into neutral while it is still rolling slightly......

I have not tested any of these because it is still in the single digits here and I have not put any miles on my week old bike yet:bang head:

 

[[email protected]]

I've had my 06 for a short time now and have noticed it a little difficult to find neutral also. I've read others mention this issue on the forum here as well. Here's what works for me.

#1 hitting N from 2nd instead of 1st
#2 doing it before you stop

I'm not a mechanic, but I have high doubts that the clutch fluid is the issue here. Just the nature of the beast IMHO.:confused2:

 

[gamorg02]

same issues here on both of my max's. i think its just how it is... always pops easier if i just roll it a bit either way... even just an inch or two.

 

[dkw0417]

My 07 does this and my Triumph Sprint RS before the max was the same way. I always just kinda figured if it hard to get into N on purpose it is even better to keep you from not shifting all the way into second when not trying to get into N. Never really bothered me after I thought it like that.

 

[WESLICH]

My '01 is a little tricky to get into neutral sometimes, but it always seems to go in eventually without too much trouble. I just thought that is was a normal Vmax thing.

 

[naughtyG]

My '86 goes into neutral without any problems, from first or second, stopped or running, all good.

Every now and then, if it sticks a little when stopped I just roll the bike slightly - just a quick rock forward or back - and it shifts into neutral straight away.

All my bikes have always done that, I think sometimes you just catch it in a funny way when you stop and have to rock it a little to get out of that spot.

 

[RowdyMax]

My '05 has around 8,000 miles and have the exact same issue.
Easy to get into neutral when cold...pretty much impossible when at operating temp with the bike running. If I shut the engine off, she goes into neutral without effort. I just figured this is typical for the max.

 

[mivmx]

Are all of you using synthetic oil? My '06 does NOT like synthetic at all. I had sloppy shifts and hard to find neutral until I switched to 10W40 Valvoline 4-Stroke. All is good now. For some reason the clutch doesn't like the synthetic, so I just use a premium petroleum. Good luck...

 

[slowpoke]

actually, yes i am using synthetic. royal purple 10- 40. but other than the not finding neutral thing, it hasnt had any more than 2 sloppy shifts and i blame that on rider error.