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Rusty McNeil

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I know there have been a few who have done it at various shows on the 2009 Max.

I'm going to the IMS show at Reliant Stadium tomorrow.

I've read all the show info and it basically says sign up statrts at 8:30 and bring all your gear and a license with a M/C endorsement.

Do these demos take place in a parking lot, out on city streets or what?

Is it worth the wait?

Is showing up super early pretty much gaurantee a ride?

How many people are showing up that want to ride the Max versus the other Star offerrings available.

A guy I saw this weekend in Bandera said he rode it in an Arkansas show and it was a generous 9 mile ride away from the show with an FZ1 escort and basic instructions to "don't pass the FZ1", he said that he still got to run it up to almost a 100 in 2nd.

I'm not sure what they have planned for the Houston show tho' and hope it isn't some lame parking lot ride..

Thanks for any advice,

Rusty
 
I'd say yes it's worth getting there early.
We went on a 20 minute ride through Daytona. Not just on the track property or parking lot.
The word is out that Star is giving demo rides on the new 09. So you better believe there will be a lot of those Star groupies there to ride it. Of all the people I met waiting to Ride it only 4 or 5 owned a Gen 1 VMax.
I'd say get there AT LEAST an hour before they open.
Here in Daytona, by 8am when they opened they already had more people in line wanting to Ride the 09 than were going to get a ride. When we took last count at 8am there were 55 people there for the 40 slots for a ride and only two people out of the 55 wanted to ride something other than the 09 Vmax.

So it all depends on how bad you want to ride one.
 
Go early!

When I was in Daytona for Biketoberfest the Yamaha rep stated that people started getting in line at 6am to get a ride on the New Max. Unfortunetly, I did not get a ride.
 
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I absolutely loved it.

I got there at 7:40, (cold ass ride in too, it was 40 when I left home, but sunny and bright also, a beautiful day) was the 7th or 8th person in line. They started sign-ups at 8:00 and by that time there were probably 50 people in line; the line stayed at 40-50 even till I left at 12:00.

The vmax schedule (they have three left, the rest having been put out of commision by accidents) was full-up by 8:45 or so.


The ride was great, leaving Reliant Staduim, heading around the loop to 288
South, right on Genoa-something and then some circuitous route I
can't remember back to Reliant, it was about 20 miles total, very
generous I thought. We rode with a lead rider and drag rider with
about 10 bikes in between.

At the riders meeting we were told; "no wheelies, stoppies, or
burnouts or we would be walking back to Reliant". We were also told to
"be exceptionally careful of the Vmax's acelleration capabilities."

They didn't say anything about not DOING ANY extremely hard
accelleration so I basically rode the living piss out of it beyond
what I would normally do even to my bike. I did a few of these
with the drag rider right behind me and was never warned to ease up.

I also ran it up to 7000-8000 rpm in various gears and held it steady
and then snapped the throttle wide open in different gears, as well
as taking off and also shifting rapidly into much higher gears than
normal for the given speed. There is no lugging this bike, and
driveline lash is almost non-existent.

The seating position for me is perfect, the pegs and bars are in the
right place, and the brakes are fantastic.

I would probably end up putting some more "forward but not quite
drag" bars on it if I bought one.

The tach, shift light, and speedo (digital) are quite easy to see.
The instruments someone else said were hard to see are probably the ones in
the cowl cluster, which is the mileage, distance, fuel level etc,
nothing I saw down there is anything that you'd look at very often.

It exceeded my expectations by light years.

I thought the suspension was very soft, at least compared to
my bike. It was one of the first things I noticed when it got bumpy.
It starts out soft and gets firmer as you go like it's supposed to.
Of course it ain't a goldwing tho'

I also noticed that 5th gear cruising at 80 mph it's turning about
4200 rpm give or take. This bike doesn't need a 6th gear.

I'm 6' tall and never noticed the scoops at all unless I looked down
at them.

When looking down at them they DO look very wide-----agressive
too....it's a sweet look in my opinion.

In person all the different textures and color accents aren't nearly
as noticeable as when critiquing pictures of the bike.....

The paint, while looking black at 1st glance, actually has some deep,
dark, cherry hue to it, with a miniscule metalflake that I didn't
notice till after almost an hour of looking at it.

To say this thing is ungodly fast is an understatement.

It's the fastest hole-shotting, low speed 1st or second gear roll-on bike I've ever been on in my life.....which might not mean THAT much since I haven't ridden very many late model sportbikes....

197 hp and 121 torque goes a long, long long way!!!!! Even on a 680 lb bike.

I took it to over a 100 several times by falling back away from the
group in front of me and nailing it at different times starting in 1st gear from anywhere from 5-15 mph to 50-65 mph.

In doing so I also had to brake very, very hrad to keep from running
up the ass of the group, the brakes bite and bite
hard, someone there commented they had too much bite and that it came in too quickly, but I don't think it's anything you wouldn't get acclimated too
quickly................................In going back and forth between my Vmax and my XR650L enduro I've gotten very used to realizing every bike has it's own clutch, brake and turning characteristics, same as when I have to peel my wife off the windshield of her FX35 when I drive it for the first time after
not having been in it for a while....eventually I get used to the feel of the brakes and she can take her hockey mask off :)

WOT in 1st at anything under 40 mph results in pure tire spin unless
you get your weight back and let it bite.

When I leaned back and got it to bite, in a WOT rollon in 1st from
around 20 mph, it did a nice 3-4" front tire skim for probably 50-70
yards,.

This bike is so much faster than the old one there is ZERO comparison.

With the exhaust it has, at WOT you hear mostly intake roar, which is
considerably loud but quite pleasant.

I also thought that the bike felt lighter than mine, both just
sitting on it moving from side to side, and at speed and in the corners. I can't believe it weighs 680 wet (mine currently wieghs 595 on the low fuel lite on the scales at the strip)

It also turns much, much easier than mine as well. (my bike has the
exact same size tires and wheels as this one)

I think Yamaha hit a homerun with this one, and I also think it's
worth every penny; but with 2 bikes already and a Kid away at college
it's not in the cards right now.

Dale Walkers statement on the starvmaxforum (he cut a 10.26 I think)
about thinking the electronic fly-by-wire throttle is holding the
bike back is accurate in my opinion, others said they didn't notice
it but to me......................

....When making a WOT 1-2 shift near redline, no matter how hard you
shift, or how hard you release the clutch, or even not using the
clutch at all, the fly by wire seems to very quickly and only for a
few milliseconds back out of the throttle for you and ease into 2nd
gear. There is no "BANG" and hard front wheel lift into 2nd like
there is on the old one when shifted this way. I think they designed
it this way on purpose, either too make it more controllable, rider
friendly or easier on 2nd gear considering the torque it's generating.

The effect I'm talking about is almost imperceptably short in
duration and would never be noticed except at a Full WOT shift.....and only then by riders with a lot of feel who ride that hard on other bikes.

I've had it confirmed also that there is a "race-only" ECU available for this bike, through Yamaha, $1000, that would address this as well as the top speed limiter too.....


I want one bad now, somebody hurry up and buy one, go scare yourself,
and sell it to me cheap OK?

Rusty
 
Nice write up Rusty! :thumbs up: I especially liked your comparison comment; "This bike is so much faster than the old one there is ZERO comparison". :punk:
Just makes me want one to put in the stable next to Redbone. (sigh)
 
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Thanks for a great writeup:clapping: More is learnt from real life experiences than those trying to make sales talk.
 
Great write up Rusty, thanks!! It makes me even more excited to get mine in February!!
 
Something else I noticed is that even tho' the forks are not upside down, they are not really conventional forks either. At least not like any I've ever seen.

For one, they ARE cartridge forks like any sportbike, making them infintely tuneable, rather than crappy damping rod system we're saddled with on the old one..

Secondly, the difference in diameter between the upper tube and the lower slider is miniscule, without all that massive amount of "meat" bulging out around the area where the fork seals are on coventional forks.

There isn't going to be any fork flex on these.
 
yea, thanksman. i'd love one, but $$ too much right now...
 
I've been poking around over on that Starvmax forum and it looks like the race only ecu is 849.95, it's listed somewhere in a star accessories catalog by yamaha, someone linked it, i can't vouch for the validity.

Someone else was also saying that this ecu only takes off the top speed limiter, .....

bummer if it's true....

I was hoping this ecu would give full direct, linear responding control of the throttle back to the rider.....
 
Man I wanted to go to that show to at least see the new max but couldn't. Wife has me getting the house ready for people coming in for Thanksgiving. Thanks for the writeup Rusty.
 
Thanks for the write-up, Rusty! It's great to hear what a 'real' rider has to say about the bike, as opposed to a magazine writer. Cheers!:clapping:
 
Thanks for your post. Does anyone how many they started with if they are down to three bikes now?

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The vmax schedule (they have three left, the rest having been put out of commision by accidents) was full-up by 8:45 or so.

Rusty
 
Thanks for your post. Does anyone how many they started with if they are down to three bikes now?

The Yamaha reps didn't tell me, but a guy I rode with in Bandera, who did a demo ride (in Arizona I think?) told me that one was wrecked at the ride he was at, and that the Rep told him they started with 6 bikes if I remember correctly. Not totally sure tho' other than he went on for a while about how the Yamaha guy had told him they'd losy several to crashes.

Rusty
 
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