RaWarrior
Well-Known Member
I like that manufacturers are turning toward the naked/standard segment again, to split the difference between full-on sportbike and total cruiser. Something that's got the sportiness and power but without the horrendous riding position.
The Honda CB1000R is the newest entry in this lineup, along with Kawi's Z1000, and the Yamaha FZRs. However, I don't get the point. They take the fantastically powerful liter class sportbike, zap 40hp from it, zap 14 lbs of torque, add 40lbs of weight, and ditch the plastics. They claim it was in the interest of "overall driveability". I can see that, and many modern bikes have multiple modes..."normal", "sport", "rain", ect that adjust fueling, response, and overall power. Why can't they do that with these nakeds? Have the "normal" be the detuned, friendly mode, and then switch it to sport and get the full sportbike engine back?
2011 CBR1000RR: 443 lbs, 153.08 hp, 77.79 lb-ft
2011 CB1000R: 485 lbs, 108.58 hp, 64.3 lb-ft
I'm intrigued by these bikes, but I don't get why they're rolling out with massively de-tuned engines. It's a liter bike, but it's horsepower is more like a 600. The only one of these to escape the scalpel so to speak was the b-king, which got out with only a slight hit to overall HP from the 'busa incarnation, and still far beyond anything else in the class.
As for this Honda, my Max puts down more HP and torque, admittedly carting a fair bit more weight around...but still. One of these manufacturers needs to nut up and ship a bike that's got the full liter bike mill in a chassis that isn't catastrophically ugly *coughBKINGcough*.
The Honda CB1000R is the newest entry in this lineup, along with Kawi's Z1000, and the Yamaha FZRs. However, I don't get the point. They take the fantastically powerful liter class sportbike, zap 40hp from it, zap 14 lbs of torque, add 40lbs of weight, and ditch the plastics. They claim it was in the interest of "overall driveability". I can see that, and many modern bikes have multiple modes..."normal", "sport", "rain", ect that adjust fueling, response, and overall power. Why can't they do that with these nakeds? Have the "normal" be the detuned, friendly mode, and then switch it to sport and get the full sportbike engine back?
2011 CBR1000RR: 443 lbs, 153.08 hp, 77.79 lb-ft
2011 CB1000R: 485 lbs, 108.58 hp, 64.3 lb-ft
I'm intrigued by these bikes, but I don't get why they're rolling out with massively de-tuned engines. It's a liter bike, but it's horsepower is more like a 600. The only one of these to escape the scalpel so to speak was the b-king, which got out with only a slight hit to overall HP from the 'busa incarnation, and still far beyond anything else in the class.
As for this Honda, my Max puts down more HP and torque, admittedly carting a fair bit more weight around...but still. One of these manufacturers needs to nut up and ship a bike that's got the full liter bike mill in a chassis that isn't catastrophically ugly *coughBKINGcough*.
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